“Hence, we have and must continue to speak of certain topics as if they were real – as we have done with energy, for example. Energy is the hot topic of humans. They want to have it, they want to direct it, they want to be immune to it.
And if you experience the Second Round of Creation from within a body, not being aware of the scene spheres you are constantly traversing, energy seems to be so omnipresent that of course you take it as real.
So, we had to use the term energy until we finally arrived at a point where we could just get rid of it. Energy? Just another illusion.”
From “Althar – Opus Magnum”
It is all conciousness,a Field of conciousness, evrything is there.